there are so many places where -- >> have you met with taliban women? women of the taliban? >> i've met women of afghanistan who have been oppressed by the taliban. i've met with women in pakistan who have been poorly treated by the extremists who are part of the pakistani taliban. so in many places there are organized groups that are determined to turn the clock back on women. but it's not just in the worst places, there are pockets of those kinds of people, men, primarily, some women who support them, but it's primarily male-driven, who really don't want women to have any voice or any role or any rights. and we have to stand up against that wherever it happens. >> you went from being, you know, much maligned as first lady by the right wing to being the most respected woman in america, and perhaps the most famous woman in the world. what does that feel like for you personally? >> i rallyon't think about it. i feel like i've been the same person my entire life. i hope i've learned some things. i hope i've become more effective in doing what, i believe, in doing. but i think